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Dude, I just got done listening to the interview Ryan Angelo did with Geoff Stephen and MAN! I swear he’s like a “brother from another mother” to Fernando and myself. Or at the very least he’s just as nerdy as we are (perhaps more so…) with his background in computers (ya know… all the boring programming stuff most can’t stand) before he got started on his business over 12+ years ago.

I think we are all going to talk in binary code now when he, Fernando, and myself kick back some drinks at the Cosmo bar in Vegas…

As if that’s not enough to make you agree he’s one cool dude, he’s also a brilliant online marketer who’s unlocked the secrets to 1,500~2,000+ leads a day AND converting these leads to actual downlines all the while “nerding” out behind his computer and not really talking to anybody.

I am actually a bit jealous at this. I mean, it’s almost unfair:

• Get a TON of leads
• Convert them NO MATTER how crappy the quality of those leads may be (this is his specialty which he’ll share on stage at NESIII)
• ANNNDDD not have to hustle over the phone (for all we know he’s making money hand over fist while eating Nachos in his boxers while playing StarCraft 2 with “The Big Bang Theory” playing in the background…)

JEALOUS!

Ryan had a chance to sit down with Geoff and pick his brains for a bit.

Among some cool stuff I learned are:

1. He was an attendee at No Excuses Summit II – I had NO idea until this interview, how cool is that? He’ll be one of two speakers who was an attendee at NESII that will be on stage at NESIII - maybe next year this could be YOU?!
2. His “ladder of success” theory on finding the proper mentors that you can model after (I agree)
3. How most entrepreneurs are focusing on the WRONG thing about themselves which is preventing them from achieving the level of success they are striving for
4. What “crossing the bridge” between treating your business like a hobby and treating it like an actual business looks like (you can do this – I promise!)
5. And one kickass quote (shared by Ryan): “Do Not Seek To Follow In The Footsteps Of The Wise. Seek What They Sought.” and what that means for you and your business.

It’s a quick 30 minute interview that’s fun, engaging, and insightful.

Give it a listen and be sure to give Ryan and Geoff a shout out in the comments below!

Learn more about Geoff Stephen here.

Ray & Ferny

P.S. Get your tickets to NESIII while they are still available here!

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